MultiperspektivenVideo 2

Auch Jolie hat einen Zusammenschnitt erstellt, der nun auf Youtube zu sehen ist:

Considering it will be july 24 soon, and the Lopatragedy is not ’solved‘ yet, and victims are still waiting for answers from the authorities, I have made a fullHD (1280 x 720 pixels ) multiperspective video, with the YouTube-movies regarding the Lopa-tragedy. It is based upon (though not strictly following) the painstaking synchronizationwork, done by the (extreme ;-)) punctilious Lopadokuteam.
See also:…
All video’s included in the film, are shown on the web, and can be accessed through the URLs at:

It took weeks of late-night-editting with careful deliberation, and the film is still not perfect. But considering it will be july 24 soon, I decided the movie had to be rendered and published. Let the Lopa-organizers and the German authorities answer the questions of the victims and their families. Do not give them a chance to forget or refrain from taking responsibility.

The full movie, 16h30-17h15, is 47 minutes long, with soundfiles of original movies, and includes credits. The movie has information-fields: location, time, and a tiny bit of explanation. The full render is 70 Gigabyte. The 1280 x 720 pixels HD-version I’ll upload to Youtube is 1,8 GB.

Danke Jolie für die tolle Arbeit!  🙂


  1. Posted 15. Juli 2011 at 10:51 | Permalink | Antworten

    Thanks a lot Daphne!

    You are welcome ofcourse 🙂
    And I hope the families of the victims will get the answers of the Organizers and Authorities they deserve…

    Anyone who has lost a familymember or close relative of such a young age, will know what these families are going through. These deaths were unnecessary. Could have been avoided. „If only.“

    At least the persons responsible have to stand up. And not just ‚morally responsible‘ —come on Herr Sauerland!— someone (or more than 1) is legally responsible. Id est: liable to be penalised in court for organizing an event that costed 21 young persons their lives.


    [translation through Google:]|de|
    Und ich hoffe, die Angehörigen der Opfer werden die Antworten bekommen der Organisatoren und Behörden, die sie verdienen…

    Jeder wer ein Familienmitglied verloren hat von so einem jungen Alter, wird wissen, was diese Familien durchmachen. Diese Todesfälle waren unnötig. Hätte vermieden werden können. „Wenn nur.“

    Zumindest die Verantwortlichen müssen aufstehen. Und nicht nur „moralisch verantwortlich“ —come on Herr Sauerland- jemanden (oder mehr als 1) ist rechtlich verantwortlich. Id est: Haftung vor Gericht für eine Veranstaltung, dass 21 junge Menschen ihr Leben kostete bestraft werden.

    • BÖS
      Posted 15. Juli 2011 at 12:06 | Permalink | Antworten

      its the best videowork i haved seen jolie ..thankx a lot, god bless you;)bye

  2. Posted 15. Juli 2011 at 13:21 | Permalink | Antworten

    Thankyou Bös! Without the material you all collected and the synch-timelines written and rewritten on this lopadoku-site, i would have never been able to get it done 🙂
    Dios Te bendiga hoy, mañana y siempre;)

  3. lopachron
    Posted 20. Juli 2011 at 16:37 | Permalink | Antworten


    Wow, erstklassige technische Umsetzung und sehr gelungenes Video. dank u

    • Posted 20. Juli 2011 at 18:46 | Permalink | Antworten

      Danke Lopachron! es dauerte mir/mich eine Weile, um herauszufinden, wie Crashes zu vermeiden;-)

      Aber ohne Ihre akribische Timeline-Arbeit, konnte ich es nie geschafft haben

  4. Posted 20. Juli 2012 at 23:18 | Permalink | Antworten

    Hier ist der Text von
    die dritte multiperspektivischen Video, zum Thema:

    Wie konnte es am 24sten Juli möglich gewesen sein, daß mindestens zwei der Opfer um 17u02 am Leben zu sehen sind im Video’s, und trotzdem gestorben sind? Die Polizei war bereits am diesem Moment über die ersten tödlichen Opfer informiert. Warum konnten diese spätere Todesopfer nicht erreicht, nicht gerettet, werden?


    – – – – – – – – – –

    In a few Days it will be the second Anniversary of the Loveparade-Tragedy in Duisburg, on july 24, 2010.

    Juridically, the Tragedy has not been solved. Two years have not been enough Time for the German legal System.

    For Answers, we have to turn to the „Zapruder-Tapes“ of the accident, Videos taken by the Witnesses on that Day.

    One of the numerous Questions is: How could it have been possible that at least two of the Victims were seen alive at 17:02 hours, when the Police was already informed about the first deadly Victims? Why could they not be reached, while they were obviously not even laying on the ground?

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Police car driving through the crowd…

    ….while there were already
    8-10 people per square metre on the ramp

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Heavy shock waves in the crowd…

    8-10 persons per square metre,

    Fences around toilets and container
    are almost pushed over:

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Shock waves push people to the ground,
    in front of the billboard and stairs

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Actually there is much more space here,
    but the entrance is narrowed, and
    cannot be perceived

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Let us take a closer look at a
    Newspaper picture of the next scene
    in which Bergomil noticed a young guy
    with an Eastpak-Rucksack,
    that Bergomil followed in the videos

    – – – – – – – – – –

    We cannot deny —we have tried— that he takes after
    Dennis Stobbe (18) from Bad Oeynhausen,
    — one of the youngest victims…

    With our deepest Sympathy to his Family and loved ones….
    – – – – – – – – – –

    In the next frames we will see the
    young guy with the Eastpak-Rucksack
    before climbing over Pizzamanne (=the
    guy filming these frames)

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Still-images will be included, since
    playback is (almost) too fast to notice:
    this is 17 hours 01 min, 01 sec, 23d frame

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Here we will see the Eastpak-Rucksack guy pass by again, in the video by
    Mbreezer, part 6

    – – – – – – – – – –

    These are the last frames where we can see him:
    17u02m04s – 17u02m24s…

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Still-images of these frames will follow, since playback was almost too fast to notice

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 01m, 46sec, 18frame:
    The Policeman manages to make a phone-call:
    the first Casualties are reported

    We see the Eastpak-guy climb to escape

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 01m, 54sec, 4frame:

    We see the Eastpak-guy raise his
    leg and foot to clime over
    Pizzamanne, the cameraman

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 01m, 55sec, 18frame:

    We see the EastpakRucksack appear in the video of Pizzamanne, and we see the Eastpak-guy — and the camera — in the video of MarcelBreezer

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 02m, 03sec, 1frame:

    In the video of Pizzamanne, we see the sock of the Eastpak-guy, and a big black T-Shirt leaning against it

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 02m, 04sec, 10frame:

    We still see the sock of the Eastpak-guy, the face of Pizzamanne and a big black T-Shirt leaning against it

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It is 17 hours, 02m, 24sec, 1frame:

    The very last frame where we see
    the Eastpak-guy, who we fear to be Dennis..

    Our deepest Sympathy to his Family and loved ones….

    – – – – – – – – – –

    The next 15 minutes, will focus on the Stairs.
    You will see how the Stairs are continued to be used,
    even when the crowd density is reduced…

    And more important: …even when there are people dying
    in the pile of persons at the foot of the stairs.

    Did Rescue Workers misjudge the situation?

    “If only….” there would have been more means of communication
    “If only….” there would have been better coordination
    “If only….” the ramp would have been evacuated sooner…

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Why are they still pulling persons up the stairs here,
    while the way to the main entrance is clear — you can see there is room to walk — while people are dying at the foot of the stairs…..?
    – – – – – – – – – –

    The “Alte Schupo” Policeman, who had to work on his own at the Tunnel end for so long, and who has probably worked harder than anyone else that day…

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Police staff in dark green, has arrived to assist the “Alte Schupo” and the “Malteser Hilfsdienst”, dressed as “firemen”

    – – – – – – – – – –

    It has been about 15 minutes since we’ve last seen the Eastpak-Rucksack-guy…
    He has not climbed the Stairs, and did not
    walk away…
    There is still a pile of people at the foot
    of the Stairs and underneath the pink

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Finally the last unconscious victims are lifted from the floor..

    – – – – – – – – – –

    We see the Alte Schupo on the bumper of the Ambulance…

    – – – – – – – – – –

    And finally, close to the Stairs, we see the sock… belonging to one of the two covered victims…

    Both Persons seen alive at 17hours 02…

    – – – – – – – – – –
    Let there be justice…

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Our deepest Sympathy to all Families and loved ones of all Victims..

    Cameramen and -women:
    Coolwojtek, Real02, Pizzamanne, Mbreezer and many anonymous others
    The list of all videos can be found at:

    Synchronization team:
    Daphne, Lopachron, Pilsbierchen, Bergomil and many anonymous others

    Video editing and comments:
    Jolie van der Klis, CC-BY-SA, jolie[at]

    • lc
      Posted 21. Juli 2012 at 03:20 | Permalink | Antworten

      Hi Jolie,

      habe dein Video jetzt auf YT gesehen. Very Very Good – Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit.

      Am Dienstag ist das Unglück 2 Jahre her und die gefährliche Polizeibulli-Durchfahrt (offensichtlich ohne vertretbaren Rettungsauftrag) durch die hochverdichtete Menge von 16:49 bis 17:00 ist immer noch nicht öffentlich wahrgenommen worden.

      Auch gut, dass du den Schupo nochmal besonders heraus stellst. Wären um 16:55 Uhr 10 weitere Schupos seines Schlages die Rampe/Treppe runter gekommen, würden zumindest der Eastpak-Junge und das Mädchen heute vielleicht noch leben.

      Ich hoffe, dass die Angehörigen von Dennis und dem Mädchen mit der bunten Bluse unsere Intention verstehen und vielleicht auch selbst genau wissen möchten, was passiert ist. So traurig das alles ist…

      Grüße nach Holland

      • Posted 21. Juli 2012 at 12:11 | Permalink | Antworten

        Vielen Dank für deinen Worten lc.
        Ja, es ist unglaublich traurig, und genau: ich hoffe sehr daß die Eltern unsere Intention verstehen..

        (Angehörigen von tragödien reagieren oft jeder anders, z.B. meine Mutter ist bald verärgert und sagt: ‚Laß die Toten in Ruhe,‘ aber mein Vater sagt „Ich denke selber auch jede Tag an das fatale Schicksal, und es gibt mich ein wenig Ruhe daß anderen es nicht vergessen und darüber schreiben.“ Hoffentlich sind die Menschen wie mein Vater.. :-})

        Hier sagte meine Freunden: „Die Polizei-Bulli verfolgte vermutlich einen Haftbefehl.“
        Aber als man sieht daß es soviele Menschen gibt daß es gefährlich geworden ist, dan soll/darf man ein Befehl ignorieren, doch?

        Und auch die Situation am Treppe: es gibt Momenten daß ich gar nocht verstehen kann warum es Polizisten auf der Treppe gibt die Menschen die Treppe hochziehen, auf der Seite der Treppe, während an der Basis der Treppe soviele Leute am Boden lagen.. Haben die die Situation falsch eingeschätzt? Oder konnten die das nicht sehen..?

        Enfin. So viele Fragen.
        Grüße nach Deutschland 🙂

    • lc
      Posted 22. Juli 2012 at 10:05 | Permalink | Antworten

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